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Captain Strings
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Micro tonal fretboard
This kind of stuff used to leave me cold years ago but quarter tones are starting to sound quite musical to me and have for a while now. Of course it's all in the context... [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRsSjh5TTqI[/youtube]
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bachdois
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Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:17 am Posts: 1635 Location: Portugal
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Re: Micro tonal fretboard
You know what's really funny? I couldn't find anything that sounded out of tune or "wrong" to my hears.... Hummmm.... food for thought!
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Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:34 am |
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kevin-c
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Re: Micro tonal fretboard
Super cool, but my western ears just melted off. I like the sound of the second guitar though.
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randy
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Re: Micro tonal fretboard
it's really interesting how "trained" we are to certain sounds, sound shapes, progressions, melodic structures, etc....and how they all exist solely because someone a long time ago said "this is how we will 'describe' music in a system" and came up with the 12 tone structure...somebody just made it like that, and everyone thinks that's the way it's supposed to be.
and then along come these cats with microtonal fretboards!!
very cool.
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Per Boysen
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Re: Micro tonal fretboard
Sounds exciting with micro tunings on classical guita! . I've loved playing with exotic micro tunings in electronic instruments and have been using it in recordings. In Logic (DAW) there is a global control for micro tuning of Logic's native instruments, that works like that guitar with adjustable frets.
Since I got the Ableton Push (tapping 64 rubber pads) I've started playing live synth instruments in micro tunings. A bit hard to combine with physical tempered string instruments but sometimes works well with my flute and fretless guitars where you can "micro intonate" as you're playing.
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greg
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Re: Micro tonal fretboard
randy wrote: it's really interesting how "trained" we are to certain sounds, sound shapes, progressions, melodic structures, etc....and how they all exist solely because someone a long time ago said "this is how we will 'describe' music in a system" and came up with the 12 tone structure...somebody just made it like that, and everyone thinks that's the way it's supposed to be.
and then along come these cats with microtonal fretboards!!
very cool. Randy, We may be "trained" in a certain way, but since the intervals we hear are all part of the natural harmonic series of any distinct pitch, it makes sense to me that we isolate and emphasize them them a certain way. Interesting to think about.
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AnDroiD
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Re: Micro tonal fretboard
i have a microtonal Stick. it's fretless
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Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:19 pm |
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Alain
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Joined: Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:02 am Posts: 2583 Location: Shawinigan, Quebec, Canada
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Re: Micro tonal fretboard
AnDroiD wrote: i have a microtonal Stick. it's fretless Yeap...I do have the same with my Godin nylon strings fretless.
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BSharp
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Re: Micro tonal fretboard
You don't have to be in tune to have a compelling performance, but it helps a lot.
As you move eastward across the globe, the music and the instruments generally become more scalar and it was natural to "customize" various ethnic scales for various social occasions using strong "flavors" for various scale degrees, either by way of altered pitch or pitch-bending (inflection).
Europe brought the chordal context to the world - Italian opera, Celtic counterpoint, the big German orchestra machine. A network of modal chord changes was introduced, then modulations to nearby key centers, then to more distant key centers. The classical composers needed a neutral matrix of tempered notes to create harmonic freedom for the composer, to wander and morph to any key. The tempered keyboard instruments, ultimately the piano, achieved this wide ranging tonal versatility, but at the sacrifice of a mellow major 3rd and some other scale degrees that no longer exactly conformed to the natural overtone series.
But as I say, you don't have to be in tune to play good music.
Now we have The Stick as a very portable grand piano and you can bend your notes as you please. String bending and vibratos always go sharp, of course, and we have no third hand for the whammy bar. Still, you can play a "false note" a fret below and bend upward toward the note, maybe with some heavy vibrato, to play a Clapton blues 3rd, or an Aretha b7th.
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kevin-c
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Re: Micro tonal fretboard
Connect a whammy to Bobs foot and we'll listen to the doors open.... Ha! For big bends (not Big Ben) listen to Eliah Levy....."Oh Lordie, I bend it so hard".....This cat bends it like Beckham!
cheers, k
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