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I've got a fun topic for you guys today! This is something Bob Culbertson talks about on his old video about the universal scale, and I felt zooming in on this topic would be helpful. As always, exercises and more are available at http://www.patreon.com/jgoldbergmusic. Enjoy!


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You posts are always welcome to this Stickist, and yes, "easy to digest". I had mine with yogurt and fruit. Now I'll put down my bowl and pick up my Stick!

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Good topic! I have eaten, slept and breathed 3 note per string scales for most of my adult life, they carry over to the Stick really, really well.

Keep it coming, Josh!

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Thanks you guys.

Scott, i feel with the straight 4ths tunings the 3 note per string shapes are even simpler on the stick than on the guitar. You've been playing guitar a lot longer than i have though, what do you think?

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The_Afro_Circus wrote:
Thanks you guys.

Scott, i feel with the straight 4ths tunings the 3 note per string shapes are even simpler on the stick than on the guitar. You've been playing guitar a lot longer than i have though, what do you think?


:D Yeah, I definitely agree - geometrically they are definitely a lot simpler! Chord and arpeggio shapes too, it's like a 3-1 learning curve - one shape works everywhere... Stanley Jordan talked a lot about that on his video too... For someone just getting into scales and stuff I think it it would be nice. (The symmetry) Emmett is a pretty clever guy... I wish I had heard of him and his crazy instrument, like decades ago hahaha

The trouble for me is that I just don't think in terms of geometry really, feels too much like work... I love talking/reading about how the shapes correspond with each other though, and I think you do a great job of explaining it.

Jon Finn had a few articles about this very topic waaaaay back when guitar magazines were a real thing, they were very similar...

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Yep I totally get the 3-1 same shapes all over thing. I am particularly geometrically minded and it's so nice. Honestly, that stuff is such a relief to me because there's already so much that makes the Stick a difficult instrument that at least I don't have to worry about the geometry.

Speaking of geometry, that's interesting that that isn't the way you naturally see things. Are you more of a "see the line of notes" guy like how I imagine horn players to be?

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The_Afro_Circus wrote:
Yep I totally get the 3-1 same shapes all over thing. I am particularly geometrically minded and it's so nice. Honestly, that stuff is such a relief to me because there's already so much that makes the Stick a difficult instrument that at least I don't have to worry about the geometry.

Speaking of geometry, that's interesting that that isn't the way you naturally see things. Are you more of a "see the line of notes" guy like how I imagine horn players to be?


:D Nope, horn players are like the elite haha I am the original "dumb kid".

How I process, It's like a really, really fast "hunt and peck" - no lie! Kind of a process of elimination.
Sort of like this...
Lol this note? Nope. This one? Nope, that's not right either... this one? Nope. How about this one? Close, try again. Rinse and repeat...

Seems inefficient, but it's not.

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Hahaha hey if it works it's not dumb!

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Post Re: Tap Theory - 3 note string rudiments
As opposed to the one finger per fret concept, these are also called "extended fingerings" since your "type A" covers five frets and utilizes a stretch.
Very useful for the whole tone scale

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Lee Vatip wrote:
As opposed to the one finger per fret concept, these are also called "extended fingerings" since your "type A" covers five frets and utilizes a stretch.
Very useful for the whole tone scale

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I do like talking scales and stuff! :D

Very useful for everything, Don't you think, Steve? Or no?

3 notes per string stuff is extremely widespread and highly effective... Just a few players who have done pretty well for themselves using that approach... Buster B. Jones, Yngwie Malmsteen, Frank Gambale, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Steve Morse, Paul Gilbert, Tony MacAlpine, Joe Bonnamassa, Guthrie Govan, Eric Johnson, Adam Fulara etc etc

If you look at Berklee Books 1-3 (I have, extensively) Bill prescribes a 4 frets for 4 fingers approach with either a first finger, or pinky stretch. The scale fingerings as such are most useful for sight-reading (Bill states this in these books) whereas other fingerings might be more suited for composition and improvisation.

Bob, and now Josh present a really clear way for the Stick of looking at how various fingering geometry is cyclical. John Finn had a series of articles on this very thing waaay back in the '90's in one of the guitar mags (Guitar For The Practicing Musician) and it was great!

Good info Josh! Keep it coming!

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