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Jzzb8ovn wrote:
I agree with Kevin legato tapping is best. Typewriter tapping sucks and sounds like one is typing not tapping



…what is legato tapping?…
…and Typewriter tapping means?…

…?…?…?…


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…what is legato tapping?…
…and Typewriter tapping means?…

…?…?…?

I’m a trumpet player so playing articulation we can play legato or staccato so I try to emulate those articulations on the stick

Legato tapping is my term for a nice mellow repetitive series of notes kinda like saying doodoodoodoo as apposed to dot dot dot dot . Typewriter tapping is my term for hitting the strings on a fret like you are typing on an old mechanical typewriter. The notes sound very percussive. I’m all about sound concept...... what is your sound idea of how a series of notes should sound. I prefer a nice mellow series of notes like Greg Howard plays when he does quick repeated notes I think Morning song on his Stick Figure Album is the example I’m thinking of. Could be wrong on the song

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Jzzb8ovn wrote:
...what is your sound idea of how a series of notes should sound....


...first, thank you very much for your answer...

...I have no idea how a series of notes should sound, as long as it's only
a serie of notes...
...that means all depends up on the musical interpretation of a piece...
...what is the atmo, the style, the format, which thoughts, feelings the music should
transport to the audience, etc...
...I can imagine that in some cases typewriter technique is not only the best
choice but the only one, for example emulate Mr. Al Di Meola....


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...first, thank you very much for your answer...

...I have no idea how a series of notes should sound, as long as it's only
a serie of notes...
...that means all depends up on the musical interpretation of a piece...
...what is the atmo, the style, the format, which thoughts, feelings the music should
transport to the audience, etc...
...I can imagine that in some cases typewriter technique is not only the best
choice but the only one, for example emulate Mr. Al Di Meola....

I teach trumpet lessons and one of the first things I do is get my students to listen to as many trumpet players as they can. Most when they start cant even name one trumpet player. It's important that they listen to the masters. In doing so they develop an idea of what great trumpet playing sounds like.
By having an idea of what is good sound wise they can start to develop a sound that is their own sound but that reflects what they hear and like.

So for me a series of notes will sound how I hear it and not how anyone else hears it. There is no right sound or wrong sound. Typewriter tapping is fine if thats what one wants. and I guess it depends on the style of music they are playing. I guess Im saying that the more stick players one listens to the more a person comes to like a certain sound of a player versus another player. Ie Bob sounds completely different that Greg or Andy Salvanos or Per Boysen or Steve Adelson etc or any number of other artists I have purchased albums from. They all sound great and have their own unigue sound. I have my favourites and try to imitate their sound.

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Jzzb8ovn wrote:
...It's important that they listen to the masters....


...yes, of course and I agree, but it's important not to copy them....
...Freddie Mercury once said, the most important thing is to be oneself....

...as a teacher, you should less throw your pupils on the masters, than to
give and show them the tools for their own interpretations, feelings, thoughts...just....

...just to be theirselves....


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....returning to legato taping, typewriter taping...
...what is the equivalent for this on trumpet, only the technical side
of how to do it?...


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Jayesskerr wrote:

It's why I sightread so much; It cuts down on wasted time and forces me to focus. I can sightread for a good 30 minutes straight, no problem. That ends up being a vast difference between focused/unfocused practice time... Now, as a side effect my concentration on "non reading" musical activities on the Stick has drastically improved. Mileage may vary, but it's working out well for me so far I feel!


I totally get it. I've been considering how many different ways I can reinforce my practice and recollection in a good way, that is; reading, visualising the touch board, note names, singing the melody in the key (relative pitch training).

It seems that we all have different skill set and some skills are stronger than others. And that's a good thing right? If I know how I approach learning, then I can move forward much more betterer.

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Balt-A-Sar wrote:
....returning to legato taping, typewriter taping...
...what is the equivalent for this on trumpet, only the technical side
of how to do it?...


So when you hammer-on or pull off a note on The Stick it has a very different sound from tapping the a string that's not already vibrating. It would be like the difference between tonguing a note and not tonguing it on the trumpet.

On The Stick, if you use a very fast hand movement to help your finger articulate the note, the gap between notes disappears, though the attack does not... This is what I think of as a legato articulation, instead of a "slur"...

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I've taught many Stick students over the last 3 decades, many responding to the initial question here. It's been very gratifying to help folks find a creative sonic path. It is surprising that an overwhelming percentage never take advantage of these learning opportunities. Don't know if it's economics, self help , intimidation....??
I would like to give back a bit to the Stick community.
I will set aside a chunk of time on a set day and offer a free mini lesson to any interested players. No strings attached except on your Stick
If interested send me a private message and we'll work out specs.
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Steve, how about a short 'mini lesson' video?
I prefer lessons that I can play over and over, until it sinks in.

Lee Vatip wrote:
I've taught many Stick students over the last 3 decades, many responding to the initial question here. It's been very gratifying to help folks find a creative sonic path. It is surprising that an overwhelming percentage never take advantage of these learning opportunities. Don't know if it's economics, self help , intimidation....??
I would like to give back a bit to the Stick community.
I will set aside a chunk of time on a set day and offer a free mini lesson to any interested players. No strings attached except on your Stick
If interested send me a private message and we'll work out specs.
Steve Adelson


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