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So I saw this video when it first came out and walked away shaking my head, no buddy on this one I disagree with you! Until I tried it!!!

Ouch! Ok so I realized I never practiced with Metronome on beats 2 and 4, for whatever reason doesn't matter now. What matters now is that at 54 years old and playing guitar since I was 13 this is big shift for me. I wonder if anyone else went astray? LOL

If nothing else this will improve my timing and concept of timing, its just not very fun. Even counting off to sync with the metronome is a problem when not looking at the damn thing. Arghhh.. Labor of love I guess right?



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So I saw this video when it first came out and walked away shaking my head, no buddy on this one I disagree with you! Until I tried it!!!

Ouch! Ok so I realized I never practiced with Metronome on beats 2 and 4, for whatever reason doesn't matter now. What matters now is that at 54 years old and playing guitar since I was 13 this is big shift for me. I wonder if anyone else went astray? LOL

If nothing else this will improve my timing and concept of timing, its just not very fun. Even counting off to sync with the metronome is a problem when not looking at the damn thing. Arghhh.. Labor of love I guess right?


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Time is a big deal, melody and harmony are nothing without rhythm (Which is infinite). I Spend a lot of time playing along to a metronome, or a score file (Guitarpro6-7 has this GREAT speed trainer mode) and then, right along with the record. For Stick, If I don't have a recording of an arrangement, I'll make my own recording, and if I like it I'll play along. If I dislike (the sound of) it, I abandon it and move on to another arrangement that sounds and feels better.

There's lots of stuff to be practiced in my opinion, odd note groupings, odd note tuplet meter, Straight rhythms, subdivision, poly rhythms, accents, rests, all that good stuff. Rhythm is infinite, and for me constitutes about 75% of my practice. Things like sightsinging, conducting, counting out rhythms, all that sort of thing is super helpful...

With that said I never watched the guy's video - I think I am doing pretty not too bad with my approach to learning/practicing various instruments!

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I tell all my students: the metronome is your best friend and also the biggest, most brutally honest jerk you will ever meet.

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The_Afro_Circus wrote:
I tell all my students: the metronome is your best friend and also the biggest, most brutally honest jerk you will ever meet.

Love it!!


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I spent most of my adult life playing to a click track in the studio. I find it easy and natural as do most. But I ran across many great musicians who struggle with it - especially certain very fine drummers whose playing breathes to their own internal clock and even tho they'll average a good constant tempo on their own and their way of playing around with time is very musical, are totally flamboozeled if forced to play to a click. It's a great skill to have tho. It builds a great internal clock.


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I confess to not seeing the video but I Always practice with a metronome. On beats 2 and 4. Just a thing I picked up as a jazz student way back when I was starting. And it works even better if you practice focusing on the metronome's sound instead of what your practicing :)


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Don't try and bury the click. Instead , play metronome games and play the off beat in between. This will create a sense of subdivision inside, which is the foundation.

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Very good video! This is actually a peeve of mine. So few people even think about working on their timing and the end result is that ... dare I say ... most players have poor to mediocre timing. This really sticks out when someone attempts to play as a solo. To me, it's something so incredibly fixable and is, at the same time, one of the world's biggest tune killers.

I've always been a big fan of the metronome. In addition to using it for timing, it's also one of the best ways to learn notated music. By using the metronome to play a tune evenly and mistake free, you're teaching your brain what it's like to play a piece properly and not slowing down for the hard parts and speeding up for the easy parts.

I've never tried the dotted eighth notes and second note triplet kinds of things though. That's very cool and I will have a go at it :-)

Another thing I like to do is to find moments to "groove" to a fixed beat at any odd time during the course of a day. For example, you're sitting at a red light with your turn indicator clicking away in your car. I'll start drumming on my legs and making up rhythms trying to find the pocket of the turn indicator.

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For example, you're sitting at a red light with your turn indicator clicking away in your car. I'll start drumming on my legs and making up rhythms trying to find the pocket of the turn indicator.

Great. Now I hafta find out the BPM of my turn signal. It's gonna drive me crazy the next time I get in my car.

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gpoorman wrote:
Very good video! This is actually a peeve of mine. So few people even think about working on their timing and the end result is that ... dare I say ... most players have poor to mediocre timing. This really sticks out when someone attempts to play as a solo. To me, it's something so incredibly fixable and is, at the same time, one of the world's biggest tune killers.

I've always been a big fan of the metronome. In addition to using it for timing, it's also one of the best ways to learn notated music. By using the metronome to play a tune evenly and mistake free, you're teaching your brain what it's like to play a piece properly and not slowing down for the hard parts and speeding up for the easy parts.

I've never tried the dotted eighth notes and second note triplet kinds of things though. That's very cool and I will have a go at it :-)

Another thing I like to do is to find moments to "groove" to a fixed beat at any odd time during the course of a day. For example, you're sitting at a red light with your turn indicator clicking away in your car. I'll start drumming on my legs and making up rhythms trying to find the pocket of the turn indicator.

Wow that's so true about slowing on difficult parts, great comments Glenn.


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