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Bach Two Part Invention - getting close
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Jzzb8ovn
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Re: Bach Two Part Invention - getting close
Congrats and well done. That is a hard tune to do. I had the first half done. I still need to finish it up Great job Scott
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:27 am |
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Jayesskerr
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Re: Bach Two Part Invention - getting close
It was/is a toughie... but well worth it. I have begun work on the 2nd one now. These Inventions not only sound awesome, but they are sooo good for my playing - really worth the time and effort in my opinion.
Thanks for checking it out, Rob! I can't wait to hear your rendition!
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:44 am |
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Jzzb8ovn
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Re: Bach Two Part Invention - getting close
I’ll have to finish up #1. I start lots of things and never finish. Didnt you order an SG12? If you have the second invention can you scan it and post it or email me a scanned copy?
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greg
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Re: Bach Two Part Invention - getting close
This is one type of music where mirrored 4ths is definitely an advantageous tuning, though I also really like the challenge of working these things out in the 4ths/inverted 5ths as well...
Good job!
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Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:56 am |
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Jzzb8ovn
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Joined: Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:11 am Posts: 1367 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Bach Two Part Invention - getting close
Frickin bars 11-12 Not sure why these seem the hardest for me. If a train wreck occurs this is my area. I spend literally hours doing these two over and over again. Grrr. Everything else seems ok. Maybe it’s the quick key change there. Also I was playing the wrong note for a while and now it’s stuck so undoing is taking longer than doing. Still loving this piece though.
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Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:50 am |
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Jayesskerr
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Re: Bach Two Part Invention - getting close
Greg, Rob - thanks for checking it out! I am still practicing this piece quite a bit, and every time I go through it - I find something new to refine and work out. It's a little annoying, because you just want to be "finished" the piece, but it's really cool because I am still learning from it.
Working on the first Invention has really helped my playing out in a big way, so I am pretty excited to keep going. Each invention has something different to teach...
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Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:09 am |
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jacubert
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Re: Bach Two Part Invention - getting close
Nicely done!
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Jzzb8ovn
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Re: Bach Two Part Invention - getting close
I’d love to hear strategies to learn these things faster. I’m working on invention number 2 now and it seems if I have it memorized I can do it easier. I’m trying to read it without looking at fretboard but that’s really hard. I’m working a bar at a time with metronome. Lots to learn for sure just wish it didn’t take so long. I’m tracking my time and will let people know when I finish the piece how long it took. Any strategies for learning this quicker would be most helpful. Still finding this all very rewarding in spite of the slow progress.
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Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:28 am |
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bbacher
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Re: Bach Two Part Invention - getting close
You inspire me, sir!
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Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:32 am |
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Jayesskerr
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Re: Bach Two Part Invention - getting close
Jzzb8ovn wrote: I’d love to hear strategies to learn these things faster. I’m working on invention number 2 now and it seems if I have it memorized I can do it easier. I’m trying to read it without looking at fretboard but that’s really hard. I’m working a bar at a time with metronome. Lots to learn for sure just wish it didn’t take so long. I’m tracking my time and will let people know when I finish the piece how long it took. Any strategies for learning this quicker would be most helpful. Still finding this all very rewarding in spite of the slow progress. It IS rewarding, isn't it? Here's the thing - although there are undoubtedly ways to streamline the learning process, it's still going to take a bit of time I think... I am well into the second invention now, but the first one is still a very major part of my practice routine. I am learning from it every time I play it, it gets me thinking about something different I could try in my own music. A few things I have been doing this time around as I work out the second Invention are as follows... I don't know if it helps really, but I like to think it does. 1) Listening to the piece both as a midi, and also the Glen Gould version at least 4-5 times a day (more if possible) 2) For Invention 1, I dove in with a "hands together" approach right off the bat. This time, I am going to memorize both parts as a "hands separate" étude, then once each side is memorized, I will dive in and memorize both hands. I can already hack my way through it by slowly sightreading it. 3) Pressure testing via metronome, audio recording, video recording, and live performance. I'm keeping close track of my practice timeframes (as always) I am hoping it takes a lot less time for this one. My goal, is to eventually learn and play them all, crazy I know! They sound so good though... bbacher wrote: You inspire me, sir! Aww, thanks man!
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