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Major discovery in left hand technique
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DaveJ
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Re: Major discovery in left hand technique
This is somewhat similar to "3rd Position" ascending and descending fingering on the violin, viola, or cello. Makes sense since those instruments are also tuned in 5ths. Position playing on those instruments is sometimes done for tone just as much as it is for efficiency.
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Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:51 am |
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Brett Bottomley
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Re: Major discovery in left hand technique
Actually upon review the bass fingerings are a bit different so greg your technique is very similar but "stickunique"!for example Ionian would be 14 24 14 24. Same idea different fingerings so I think you can patent it!!!!
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Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:03 am |
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Balt-A-Sar
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Re: Major discovery in left hand technique
Brett Bottomley wrote: ...so I think you can patent it!!!!... ...what is this.... ...should I ask first somebody or anybody how to use my fingers... ...sorry for being direct and open...
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Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:28 pm |
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Navigator
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Re: Major discovery in left hand technique
Just like playing the double bass, Greg! The same thing me get there, where we have a lot more distance between the notes on the 'fretboard'.
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Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:07 pm |
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Brett Bottomley
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Re: Major discovery in left hand technique
Balt-A-Sar wrote: Brett Bottomley wrote: ...so I think you can patent it!!!!... ...what is this.... ...should I ask first somebody or anybody how to use my fingers... ...sorry for being direct and open... Lol, no it was a slight joke. I don't think you can patent fingerings. Brett
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Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:33 pm |
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greg
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Re: Major discovery in left hand technique
Balt-a-star,
Thanks for posting all those fingerings. The beauty of the scheme I propose is that the fingering is always the same, regardless of the key in question.
This is important because the hand must be both the bow and the hand, so it must have certainty of motion. Having key-based fingeriings takes away that certainty...
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Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:28 pm |
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Balt-A-Sar
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Re: Major discovery in left hand technique
...thanks for your answer, Brett and Greg...
....IMHO the advantage isn't so much the fingering itself, but the regularity of the finger shifts or position changes, this regularity make it possible to perform them very fast and fluid...
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Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:57 pm |
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greg
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Re: Major discovery in left hand technique
Balt-A-Sar wrote: ...thanks for your answer, Brett and Greg...
....IMHO the advantage isn't so much the fingering itself, but the regularity of the finger shifts or position changes, this regularity make it possible to perform them very fast and fluid... Yes it does. Much faster and more fluid than 1-2-3-4
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Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:33 pm |
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rodan07
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Re: Major discovery in left hand technique
After jamming with some friends yesterday, I'm liking Greg's discovery more.
I think the 1-2-3-4 has a place though. If you want to de-emphasize the "2-3-4" part of your scale, like, do a descrescendo, it works well.
But playing the altered fingerings Greg just posted about is stronger, easier, and faster.
One more thing about the 1-2-3-4 fingering: You can play scales on both sides simultaneously, and it's easy to keep track of identical fingerings between hands, if you advance a couple of frets each time you cross a string on the right-hand side. Try it! It makes you cover a lot of real estate on the treble side.
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Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:06 am |
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greg
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Re: Major discovery in left hand technique
rodan07 wrote: One more thing about the 1-2-3-4 fingering: You can play scales on both sides simultaneously, and it's easy to keep track of identical fingerings between hands, if you advance a couple of frets each time you cross a string on the right-hand side. Try it! It makes you cover a lot of real estate on the treble side.
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Rather than advancing on the right hand, I like to use three fingers-per-string and go back two frets on the left hand with each higher string transition, this way, there's no alternate fingerings for different strings as with 4 fingers. You can see this approach in action on this video at 5:55, (it can be very fast, as you will see) [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-JK0vcPucc[/youtube] But this approach doesn't always work well with written pieces, as you can run out of frets or bump into your other hand.
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