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Favorite 12-string tuning and why
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Per Boysen
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Re: Favorite 12-string tuning and why
Hi Ezra,
On my 36" Grand I tune my mid guage strings at MR but one half-step up. For me, deciding on tuning is all about balancing the three aspects string tension, string thickness, and resonation between the strings and the wood in the Stick.
_________________ Cheers / Per Bamboo SG12, Wenge SG12, Bamboo Grand. PASV4 on all. (+ Stickup modded by Emmett 4 the PASV4 blocks). Fractal Audio AxeFx-III, 2 x RCF NX-10 SMA, Apollo Twin USB http://youtube.com/perboysen
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Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:06 am |
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Ezra
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Re: Favorite 12-string tuning and why
Per Boysen wrote: Hi Ezra,
On my 36" Grand I tune my mid guage strings at MR but one half-step up. For me, deciding on tuning is all about balancing the three aspects string tension, string thickness, and resonation between the strings and the wood in the Stick. Thank you, Per; interesting. -e.
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Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:06 am |
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arcoddath
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Re: Favorite 12-string tuning and why
Matched Reciprocal (see my sig) because that's what it was when I bought it. Strings are exensive so I can't easily afford to change to another tuning casually but, looking over Free Hands, I think I'll try Classic 12 next time I buy strings.
This is mainly because there are several advantages in cross-side voicings (see some of the listed chord voicings in Lesson 12 for instance) and, on watching some videos of Emmett playing recently I was struck by how often he seemed to play across the gap. It brought some of the decisions of the classic tuning deign into focus.
_________________ AxS Rosewood Grand #1496, Matched Reciprocal
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Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:22 am |
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DavidWS
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Re: Favorite 12-string tuning and why
arcoddath wrote: (see some of the listed chord voicings in Lesson 12 for instance) Pardon my ignorance (I haven't even got my Stick yet, so no books yet either), but may I ask 'Lesson 12" of what?
_________________ David More Stickists than you can shake a Stick™ at? (links list) Bamboo Grand 12 2024 #7472 Stickup Low Xtnd Classic Melody (Outer 5ths) Bamboo Grand 12 2009 #5826 PASV4 Low Xtnd Classic Melody (Outer 5ths) Graphite 10 2009 #5862 PASV4 Classic
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Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:51 am |
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arcoddath
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Re: Favorite 12-string tuning and why
Sorry -- 'Free Hands', Emmett's original stick instruction book (hopefully you have one included in your Railboard order). Rather than chapters it's divided into 18 Lessons and I literally picked my copy off the desk and opened it to the first page with a 2-side chord diagram.
It's a terrific, indeed the best, stick book (sorry to Greg and Steve, whose books I also have).
Nice to see yet another scottish stickist, incidentally!
_________________ AxS Rosewood Grand #1496, Matched Reciprocal
"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes"
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Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:05 am |
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DavidWS
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Re: Favorite 12-string tuning and why
arcoddath wrote: Sorry -- 'Free Hands', Emmett's original stick instruction book (hopefully you have one included in your Railboard order). Thank you. That was my guess, but I prefer not to assume. Yes, a copy is included in my order. arcoddath wrote: It's a terrific, indeed the best, stick book (sorry to Greg and Steve, whose books I also have). I find that with any 'book learning' there's nearly always advantage in having a range of books. I try not to 'butterfly' between courses, but when questions arise the answer can often be deduced by comparing & contrasting different descriptions & approaches. arcoddath wrote: Nice to see yet another scottish stickist, incidentally! Thank you. I look forward to the day when I can actually be one.
_________________ David More Stickists than you can shake a Stick™ at? (links list) Bamboo Grand 12 2024 #7472 Stickup Low Xtnd Classic Melody (Outer 5ths) Bamboo Grand 12 2009 #5826 PASV4 Low Xtnd Classic Melody (Outer 5ths) Graphite 10 2009 #5862 PASV4 Classic
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Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:39 am |
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Per Boysen
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Re: Favorite 12-string tuning and why
arcoddath wrote: scottish stickist I'm not Scottish, but long ago I bought my first decent electric guitar in Edinborough.
_________________ Cheers / Per Bamboo SG12, Wenge SG12, Bamboo Grand. PASV4 on all. (+ Stickup modded by Emmett 4 the PASV4 blocks). Fractal Audio AxeFx-III, 2 x RCF NX-10 SMA, Apollo Twin USB http://youtube.com/perboysen
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Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:52 am |
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DavidWS
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Re: Favorite 12-string tuning and why
arcoddath wrote: looking over Free Hands, I think I'll try Classic 12 next time I buy strings....on watching some videos of Emmett playing recently I was struck by how often he seemed to play across the gap. It brought some of the decisions of the classic tuning deign into focus. But also consider that Emmett's ideas developed over time & he migrated to & recommended RMR. Here's something greg wrote a few days ago in the 'The Future' topic (albeit with a 10 string in mind?): greg wrote: Also, with the RMR tuning, Emmett had access to slightly higher chords,and felt less of a need for that extra bass string.
Playing his instrument at the memorial was a little surreal, and it made me appreciate that tuning a little more. I will keep one instrument in RMR all the time from now on.
_________________ David More Stickists than you can shake a Stick™ at? (links list) Bamboo Grand 12 2024 #7472 Stickup Low Xtnd Classic Melody (Outer 5ths) Bamboo Grand 12 2009 #5826 PASV4 Low Xtnd Classic Melody (Outer 5ths) Graphite 10 2009 #5862 PASV4 Classic
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Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:36 am |
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arcoddath
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Re: Favorite 12-string tuning and why
DavidWS wrote: Thank you. I look forward to the day when I can actually be one. Yes, me too. I often muse on the fact that there are three stickists in/near Edinburgh or, if you include me, two.
_________________ AxS Rosewood Grand #1496, Matched Reciprocal
"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes"
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DavidWS
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Re: Favorite 12-string tuning and why
arcoddath wrote: I often muse on the fact that there are three stickists in/near Edinburgh or, if you include me, two. It's impossible to be sure, but that may well be two (or three) more than in the Highland & Islands, unless you know different?
_________________ David More Stickists than you can shake a Stick™ at? (links list) Bamboo Grand 12 2024 #7472 Stickup Low Xtnd Classic Melody (Outer 5ths) Bamboo Grand 12 2009 #5826 PASV4 Low Xtnd Classic Melody (Outer 5ths) Graphite 10 2009 #5862 PASV4 Classic
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