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Author:  nelz [ Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:39 pm ]
Post subject:  How would a person learn the tablature
1. Is there a standard Stick tablature?
2. Is there a tome available to purchase with a legend to read this notation?
Thank you.
Author:  DavidWS [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 2:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How would a person learn the tablature
nelz wrote:
1. Is there a standard Stick tablature?
2. Is there a tome available to purchase with a legend to read this notation?

Tab: Yes. It's called Staff Tab.
Book: Yes. The Stick Book https://stick.com/method/books/stick1/
Author:  Boaz [ Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:02 am ]
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also check out this :

https://www.stickmusicscores.com/
Author:  Gusset [ Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How would a person learn the tablature
nelz wrote:
1. Is there a standard Stick tablature?
2. Is there a tome available to purchase with a legend to read this notation?
Thank you.

As David mentioned, StaffTab is a complete and thorough notation invented, (I believe) jointly by Greg and Emmett for notating Stick compositions. Its greatest improvement over traditional tablature is that it not only indicates string and fret, but it indicates which finger to use via note head shapes. Another feature is that the notes reside on a Grand Staff, which is a big plus in my opinion.

Due to the increased complexity of notating in StaffTab (generating non-traditional note symbols), though, much/most of what you will find out there is notated using variations of traditional guitar/bass tablature.
Author:  Balt-A-Sar [ Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How would a person learn the tablature
nelz wrote:
1. Is there a standard Stick tablature?
2. Is there a tome available to purchase with a legend to read this notation?
Thank you.



...Don't use tablature, it's too complicated...
use traditional notation instead...
...like piano, or classical guitar....
Author:  DavidWS [ Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How would a person learn the tablature
Balt-A-Sar wrote:
...Don't use tablature, it's too complicated...
use traditional notation instead...
...like piano, or classical guitar....


For me full tablature also implies "One True Way Of Playing" a tune?

Fine if that's what you're after, but it's not for all.
Author:  greg [ Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How would a person learn the tablature
nelz wrote:
1. Is there a standard Stick tablature?
2. Is there a tome available to purchase with a legend to read this notation?
Thank you.


Each of my books has a section on how to read StaffTab at the beginning.

DavidWS wrote:
For me full tablature also implies "One True Way Of Playing" a tune?

Fine if that's what you're after, but it's not for all.


To combat this tendency, in both the Greg Howard Songbook and my most recent Tapping Into Bach, I provide standard notation versions of all pieces so that the player could work out their own preferred way of playing the piece. The details in my StaffTab version are designed to teach the choreography of hand movement that I chose to make playing the pieces not only "practically" but "musically", both of which are important to me as a player/teacher/arranger.
Author:  DavidWS [ Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How would a person learn the tablature
greg wrote:
The details in my StaffTab version are designed to teach the choreography of hand movement that I chose to make playing the pieces not only "practically" but "musically", both of which are important to me as a player/teacher/arranger.

I appreciate that @greg, and I did mention The SticK Book in my first post on this topic.

I was just adding an extra consideration to Balt-A-Sar's 'too complicated' point of view.

I have all your books. They are a great resource.

Each to their own way... :D
Author:  SteveS [ Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:59 pm ]
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I haven't found StaffTab to be "too complicated" either. It really becomes second nature after a while, and I've only used it to learn 4 pieces to-date.
Author:  gpoorman [ Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How would a person learn the tablature
Tablature soared in popularity back in the days of Usenet news because it was a very easy way to send people instructions on how to play tunes on guitar using plain text. Usually the recipient already knew how the tune was supposed to sound and things like note durations and such weren't important. Just where to put your fingers. In that regard it is considerably less complicated than standard notation and does the job very well. It doesn't imply anything. It's a learning tool. Nobody would suggest to a beginner piano student that they should avoid editions with fingering notations. They are suggestions based on common ways of fingering things. Editions geared toward more intermediate players have fewer fingering notations while editions geared toward advanced players have even fewer (if any at all).

A lot of guitar notation today contains both with standard notation in one staff and tab in a second staff. This is nice as it allows you to focus on one and either ignore the other or just use it for the occasional reference.

I still think StaffTab is a brilliant way to notate Stick music. For me though it just became too time taking. All the notation software out there have guitar style tab so baked in that it's very fast and easy to do. Most all of them are customizable as well so for something like the Stick, it's just a matter of creating a template. The only con really is that since you need the grand staff for Stick, including tab means four staves instead of two.

I have several charts on my web page at http://121normal.com/resources/charts/stick. I actually have several more sitting and ready to post but I prefer having a video ready to accompany the chart so ... waiting for that.
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