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meugel wrote:
Another outside the box solution:
button-fix.com

Very neat Mugel, & apparently easy to obtain. I'll be intereted to hear how you get on with them.

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DavidWS wrote:
Very neat Mugel, & apparently easy to obtain. I'll be intereted to hear how you get on with them.

I ordered them from UK yesterday, it will take about two weeks to have delivery in Vienna.

In the meantime I will work on the prototype of the connection parts. My idea is to use the existing holes on the stick to mount a thin plate where the Button-fix parts are fixed. So you can make an interchangeable system where you can mount belt hooks, Mike Johnstone's Lap Dawg, a homemade lap bar or stand, or whatever you want ...

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meugel wrote:
In the meantime I will work on the prototype of the connection parts. My idea is to use the existing holes on the stick to mount a thin plate where the Button-fix parts are fixed. So you can make an interchangeable system where you can mount belt hooks, Mike Johnstone's Lap Dawg, a homemade lap bar or stand, or whatever you want ...


I have a similar idea. Perhaps using them to adapt the arrangement I'm already using to have both a belt hook and a 'mounting plate'.

See: https://www.stickist.com/viewtopic.php?p=138315#p138315

If I could switch between the a belt hook & the 'mounting plate', I could have the 'mounting plate' near the belt hook loction (thus putting less leverage on the existing fixiings).

I could also switch the 'mounting plate' between Sticks (or leave it clamped to the stand & just dismount the Stick?).

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Post Re: Removable belt hook?
My interest in the button and plate system,
is to make a removable monopod.
For me, the monopod is a natural fit for the Stick. 8-)

They are also available in metal.
https://www.youtube.com/@juliebuttonfix/videos

https://www.hafele.ca/en/product/type-1 ... -01319452/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Button-Fix-Sta ... B07SK7SBZD
https://mbs-standoffs.com/product/butto ... -retardant

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DavidWS wrote:
I have a similar idea. Perhaps using them to adapt the arrangement I'm already using to have both a belt hook and a 'mounting plate'.

See: https://www.stickist.com/viewtopic.php?p=138315#p138315

If I could switch between the a belt hook & the 'mounting plate', I could have the 'mounting plate' near the belt hook loction (thus putting less leverage on the existing fixiings).

I could also switch the 'mounting plate' between Sticks (or leave it clamped to the stand & just dismount the Stick?).

Great! This could become a kind of modular system ...

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Post Re: Removable belt hook?
WerkSpace wrote:
My interest in the button and plate system,
is to make a removable monopod.
meugel wrote:
Great! This could become a kind of modular system ...

I think we are all pursuing a similar dream? ;)

I've ordered some too. They were despatched with a couple of hours. Delivery is quoted as April 5th, but given the mode of delivery (Royal Mail) I suspect they may be here before then?

There is then the small(!) matter of finding time to experiment with them...

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WerkSpace wrote:
My interest in the button and plate system,
is to make a removable monopod.
For me, the monopod is a natural fit for the Stick. 8-)

Also a monopod should be possible ...

WerkSpace wrote:
They are also available in metal.

"Ideal for marine and other transport interiors" ...
but also "Panels that are repeatedly removed"
The nylon type will be my test version ...
The metal version seems to be stronger and heavier. And it works with a steel spring.

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DavidWS wrote:
I've ordered some too. They were despatched with a couple of hours. Delivery is quoted as April 5th, but given the mode of delivery (Royal Mail) I suspect they may be here before then?

Well, within UK it is probably faster.

DavidWS wrote:
There is then the small(!) matter of finding time to experiment with them...

That's the point :lol:

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I ordered these keyhole hangers for my Sprinter van project.
I want to make custom knock-down camping cabinets, etc.
This will make the van dual purpose, for working and camping.

https://www.amazon.ca/Antrader-200-Pack ... 07K2RBDC8/

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Post Re: Removable belt hook?
DavidWS wrote:
There is then the small(!) matter of finding time to experiment with them...

They arrived on Monday. Today I found a little time...

I did an initial experiment using a couple of offcuts just to test how the connectors worked. I started with 2 of the mounts 'in parallel'. That was very firm in most directions, but I could still wiggle the two layers laterally a little. Adding a third mount lower down to form triangle removed the wriggle.

I then removed the mounting plate & belt hook from my earlier arrangement, and positioned three mounts in a triangle.

In my first arrangement I put the 'third' a bit higher up so that the small third screw of the usual belt hook mount could be accessed. That wasn't satisfactory as the wriggle had returned, so I shifted it lower.

Here's the revised arrangement

Attachment:
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and here it is connected and in place on my stand.

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Every bit as firm as the original.

Pros: The mounting plate is now right over the screws that attach to the Stick, so less leverage than the earlier position.

Cons: I don't have both belt hook & mounting plate at the same time.

Neutral: The mount is now further from the Stick. That doesn't seem to be an issue with the mount but might be with belt hook or 'monopod'? The distance could be reduced if I had some shorter screws to match the original belt hook screws (N.B. mine are from a 'flat' belt hook mount & this are both the same length). With shorter screws the double layer attached direct to the Stick coulld be reduced to one.

It might even be possible to make the layer attached to the Stick very thin, e.g. an alloy sheet just a few mm thick of the 'bonded' version of the button fix mounts was used?

ToDo: Make another dismountable piece for the belt hook.

Possible change: The original double layer piece is now longer than needed. Its length could be reduced, but it's not a priority. If I obtained the shorter screws mentioned above I'd probably look for a nicer bit of wood, and make a neater job of the whole thing...


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