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bizon
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![Post Post](./styles/serenitydarkblue/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) The Future of Stick Enterprises
I realize that this is very likely a delicate topic, but I’m curious what the future holds for Stick Enterprises.
I know that Grace is beyond capable at construction, repairs, and running the business, but she is very obviously short staffed; and with the extremely sad and unfortunate passing of both Emmett and Greg, it’s a very different landscape now in the Stick world.
Wait times for new instruments are understandably long due to the circumstances, but even repairs are estimated at around 2 years, which makes it very challenging for players new and old alike.
With Emmett having been the sole R&D person there, what’s next for the Stick?
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Big George Waters
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![Post Post](./styles/serenitydarkblue/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: The Future of Stick Enterprises
That's a very legit question, and hence the high asking prices of the used Stick market.
I honestly don't know.
It's nice that there is such a demand for new instruments, and repairs, but at the same time Grace can't possibly go on forever.
I would say things will continue as they are, until they stop taking deposits for new instruments/repairs/etc....
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DavidWS
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![Post Post](./styles/serenitydarkblue/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: The Future of Stick Enterprises
bizon wrote: but even repairs Where it's the same person doing both new builds & repairs that doesn't seem at all surprising. If you were waiting for a new instrument would you be impressed if other jobs kept being inserted into the queue ahead of you? Just a thought...
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baggetthouse
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![Post Post](./styles/serenitydarkblue/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: The Future of Stick Enterprises
bizon wrote: ...but I’m curious what the future holds for Stick Enterprises. A legit inquiry. One that comes up a fair bit in recent times. I assume Grace & SE would start to train new people eventually. I'd LOVE to be one of those new people, but no way am I moving to LA! Stick setup alone is a tricky art. I thought it was easier than expected after trying to change string gauges from Heavy to Mediums. But I started the process wrong, screwing it up even further by the time Grace gave me proper instructions via email. Thus, I'm on the 2 year repair waiting list! Maybe I'll figure it out in the meantime. Thankfully, I have two Sticks. Almost 25 years ago I had asked Greg Howard the same question about SE. Can it continue on after Emmett? "SE is well equipped to continue on without Emmett" he assured. I can only assume that Grace & Co. have or are making plans for the same.
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WerkSpace
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![Post Post](./styles/serenitydarkblue/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: The Future of Stick Enterprises
The SE Patents hold real value. If these Patents did not exist, many companies would be producing Sticks, Railboards, NS Sticks etc.
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Captain Strings
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![Post Post](./styles/serenitydarkblue/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: The Future of Stick Enterprises
I live just down the road from S.E. and I'm in fairly frequent contact through email and when and I stick my head in the shop on business. I can assure you things are going well, Grace is working hard, slowly catching up and there is light at the end of the tunnel. I just got a note from Grace a few minutes ago saying as much.
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baggetthouse
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![Post Post](./styles/serenitydarkblue/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: The Future of Stick Enterprises
Captain Strings wrote: I live just down the road from S.E. and I'm in fairly frequent contact through email and when and I stick my head in the shop on business. I can assure you things are going well, Grace is working hard, slowly catching up and there is light at the end of the tunnel. I just got a note from Grace a few minutes ago saying as much. Dude, that's wrong. You can't write this and not share what's going on. Do tell!
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Captain Strings
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![Post Post](./styles/serenitydarkblue/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: The Future of Stick Enterprises
Quote: Dude, that's wrong. You can't write this and not share what's going on. ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif) Do tell! Nothing much to tell. Down a road, stairway up a hill, shop full of Sticks in various stages of completion. Several folks quietly staying to task and recovering admirably from some setbacks. Last time I was over, they had a new type of SKB hardshell case. All black, kinda like a Pelican case - very tough, stout and light. I think there's pictures of it now on their site. https://www.stick.com/shop/accessories/cases/hard/ So yeah Stick Enterprises is very much in business. Be patient folks.
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baggetthouse
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![Post Post](./styles/serenitydarkblue/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: The Future of Stick Enterprises
Captain Strings wrote: Last time I was over, they had a new type of SKB hardshell case. All black, kinda like a Pelican case - very tough, stout and light. I think there's pictures of it now on their site. https://www.stick.com/shop/accessories/cases/hard/ . Oh yes. I have that case. It came with my new 10-string Bamboo late summer 2022. I don't know when SE switched over to that kind. It doesn't look like a Stick case at first. When the delivery guy was unloading it at my house, my first thought was, "Did SE screw up and send me an NS Stick? ![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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begin again
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![Post Post](./styles/serenitydarkblue/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: The Future of Stick Enterprises
Captain Strings wrote: Quote: Dude, that's wrong. You can't write this and not share what's going on. ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif) Do tell! . Last time I was over, they had a new type of SKB hardshell case. All black, kinda like a Pelican case - very tough, stout and light. I think there's pictures of it now on their site. https://www.stick.com/shop/accessories/cases/hard/ So yeah Stick Enterprises is very much in business. Be patient folks. It looks like an iseries rifle case (another stickist turned me on to using rifle cases). NOTE : remember they are fitting foam to specifically fit Chapman Stick and an SKB rifle case without stick-specific fitting is north of $200US anyway. I think it's a wise move, with enough else going on, using OTS accessories/components could streamline things, leaving resources for the stuff that sort of HAS to be custom funny thing though. I use panasonic toughbooks a lot - I've been initially hassled at airports you can't bring this in herewhat? a laptop? oh I thought it was a handgun case
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