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Author:  Big George Waters [ Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:36 am ]
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*regarding the comment of repairs before new instruments, I seem to think that when I purchased a used Stickbass, which I had Grace set up the way she turned me on to a couple of years previous - the idea of two bass guitars one in 4ths one in 5ths, anyhow I am pretty sure I gave strict instructions to take their time, and to put new Stick owners ahead of me.

I do know that when it came time for an 8 string Railboard [am I the only one with one of those ??] I know for a fact I instructed - crap I forgot her name, was it Cambria ?? - anyhow I instructed this very helpful woman that Emmett was to take his time, put any and all new orders ahead of my instrument, repairs, whatever... and when time permits only then work on my instrument.

There was a good logic to this, as I was not able to afford either instrument if they were made quickly - but at the same time I was making payments when I could, and when the instruments were done, the cost was very minimal compared to if I had waited till the instrument was ready to be shipped *plus S.E. was getting a little cashflow from my end during the entire process.

I am still very tempted to order a custom Railboard 12 set up 5 bass 7 melody Crafty tuning both bass and melody sides, and again... with the same explicit instructions of taking their time, and maybe i would even suggest using a Railbeam blank that nobody wants, because the color is off or something is not right about it.

But first, my 86 Country Squire wagon is off to the shop today, as I have to keep that baby going since it is my main ride, besides my newer 1990 Jeep Wrangler.

I won't even go into what's in my garage, which I have owned since I was 21 years old [my 71 Plymouth race car!! ] which I hope to start restoring once I turn 65 *I just turned 59 today !!

But I am still seriously thinking about that Railboard 12.....
Author:  begin again [ Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:41 am ]
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Big George Waters wrote:
I won't even go into what's in my garage, which I have owned since I was 21 years old [my 71 Plymouth race car!! ] which I hope to start restoring once I turn 65 *I just turned 59 today !!

But I am still seriously thinking about that Railboard 12.....



**OFF TOPIC***

[youtube2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t1vaF50Ks0[/youtube2]
Author:  Scott Ernest [ Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Future of Stick Enterprises
I guess we NS/Stickists are in a class all our own - but we knew that already, didn't we? :lol: I ordered my NS in May of 23, choosing from the bodies and necks they had in stock with no color dyes and no high-gloss finish. Jeff at Stick quoted me 4 to 5 months and it arrived on my doorstep 5 months to the day. Maple body with Chechen neck with a custom Crafty 8-string tuning. The process to make the NS must be quite different if it can arrive so quickly. Had I chosen a gloss and/or dyed finish it would have take 12 to 18 months.
Author:  DavidWS [ Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:39 am ]
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Scott Ernest wrote:
The process to make the NS must be quite different if it can arrive so quickly.

I believe Gary does all the NS work & that it has a totally separate order queue?

Scott Ernest wrote:
Had I chosen a gloss and/or dyed finish it would have take 12 to 18 months.

I guess that with all the instruments they batch up body/neck/beam production, so if a particular material or special finish is out of stock it's a matter of waiting till the next time a new batch of that aspect is prepared?
Author:  RandomCrap [ Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:09 pm ]
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WerkSpace wrote:
I've had the main components to build a Chapman Stick for my own personal use for many years. The wood that I will be using is PurpleHeart.


Long-time wood worker here. One of the great tragedies in woodworking is that Purple Heart does not maintain its color. Nor Yellow Heart, or Padauk, or Bubinga, or indeed most wonderfully colored woods. Alas, they are so pretty we use them anyway. Just be aware that UV will kill the color.

Here's a stick stand I made. Colors look nice now, but I don't expect them to last. It was just for fun.

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From inside to outside: wenge, maple, bubinga, maple, padauk, maple, purple heart, maple, walnut, maple, and zebra wood.

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And here is a lap stand I made with Bubinga and Purple Heart. I'm in love with figured Bubinga like this.

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Author:  WerkSpace [ Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Future of Stick Enterprises
In the past,
I've used a sun tanning UV light to initially restore the color of PurpleHeart.
For the long term, the wood needs to be treated with a UV protectant.
RandomCrap wrote:
Long-time wood worker here. One of the great tragedies in woodworking is that Purple Heart does not maintain its color. Nor Yellow Heart, or Padauk, or Bubinga, or indeed most wonderfully colored woods. Alas, they are so pretty we use them anyway. Just be aware that UV will kill the color.
Author:  Reboq [ Wed May 01, 2024 4:09 pm ]
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Regarding patents, IIRC, in Emmett's biography he stated that he trademarked numerous Stick features instead of patenting them because trademarks don't expire as opposed to patents, saving significant money. I really don't know much about patent/trademark law but I think this was true. I would guess Grace would know.
Reboq
Gold plasma Railboard #6788
Author:  begin again [ Wed May 01, 2024 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Future of Stick Enterprises
Reboq wrote:
Regarding patents, IIRC, in Emmett's biography he stated that he trademarked numerous Stick features instead of patenting them because trademarks don't expire as opposed to patents, saving significant money. I really don't know much about patent/trademark law but I think this was true. I would guess Grace would know.
Reboq
Gold plasma Railboard #6788



I think I can help
They don't protect the same thing (FWIW wife's a pat atty so was my dad - I used to help write patent applications)

patents protect inventions - actual utility. Something that functionally does something (there are design patents as well but they have similar limits and it's a bit beyond the scope) in other words, the technology

trademarks protect marks (identifying graphics, or wording...marks) in trade (business) that identify the source of the product to the consumer ..In other words "branding"

It means, for example, you can make a generic drug like, say, acetaminophen, which is the actual invention but you can't call it Tylenol which is a trademark

Velcro is pretty aggressive about their trademarks (because you can lose them ) - even though people can make "hook & loop fasteners" the technology

watch these..it's funny and covers the issues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRi8LptvFZY
https://youtu.be/ZLWMQLMiTPk

It's why you don't want to call other tapping instruments "chapman stick" and why you see ® and ™ on stick enterprises stuff, they are calling it out as a trademark and not a generic term


here a quick table on the USPTO - it's not as funny as the velcro guys though
https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics ... -copyright
Author:  DavidWS [ Thu May 02, 2024 1:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Future of Stick Enterprises
begin again wrote:
watch these..it's funny and covers the issues

Thank you. That was indeed both fun & informative. :D
Author:  DavidWS [ Thu May 02, 2024 1:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Future of Stick Enterprises
PS. The second video link didn't work for me here in the UK. Was it maybe the same as this one?
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