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 Paigan Productions, or Stephen Sink, introduction 
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I haven't made it to many of the get-togethers this year, but you can also count me among the SE Michigan Stickists. It was about 10 years ago I stumbled upon http://www.detroitstick.com, went to a Stick Seminar performance at the Firefly Club in Ann Arbor, and finally a visit to Glenn's house that got me started. Can't say enough about his efforts and the general goodness of all the Stick players around here.

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I'm at Oz's every Thursday for group guitar lessons as well. Welcome!

Oz has a few other odd instruments in his store - Harpejei, Therimin, and lots of "world" instruments from places like Africa and India. He also has a working model of the "Patches of Shade" effects pedal made by Stick Enterprises many years back.

The gathering usually happens the 3rd Thursday of each month around 8:30PM. Always good to call first as they are often pushed back another week.

As far as I know, there's at least 10 Stick players within 30 miles of Ann Arbor, that I've met personally, Oz has met a few more.

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I’ll be bugging people about amps, but that’ll be down the line a bit.

Cheers!

Welcome, Steve! That line got my attention, as the forum regulars almost certainly expected, so feel free to bug me.

About the only thing I can add at this juncture is a line of Japanese borrowed from an anime theme song (where else?): “Zettai makenai yo.” By that I mean: if you do not see your progression as a competition, even just with yourself, then you cannot lose.


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Hi Steven,

Welcome to the board from an old timer here. (two days :))

I like your music - I listened to "You and Me" and a few others on your site. I admire people who can put together a CD by themselves and make it sound good. One time I played bass and programmed a drum track (a beat by beat programmer) to accompany me singing live with my guitar, but that's about it. Well, I was in bands that recorded in studios, but I just played and sang - no mixing, producing, etc.

Your stick story is exactly like mine! I saw that same video on Reddit last week and said WTF - Why have I been a musician for 50 years and never even heard of this thingh? Then I googled and found Emmett, Greg, Bob, and all the others and could not believe the sounds they were making. My wife Pat also blown away as well. So we looked around on ebay, etc. then called Cambria to order blue Railboard. Our lives were shattered when she said 3 to 6 months. But then she said that there was a 90s 10-string just refurbished by Emmet that was sitting in her office awaiting a disposition. We grabbed it up, and it arrived yesterday. Niener, niener, I guess we got it just before you would have. :)

My first thought upon poking at it was OMG, I can't even make a sound that is vaguely note-like on this thing -- sort of a like beginning violinist (like me in 4th grade) spending the first month or two just trying to play a passable note. But things multiplied very fast, and I am now playing nice notes, simple melodies, and a few chords.

You absolutely must buy Greg Howard's DVD "Basic Free Hands Technique". It is not the typical beginner's course in fret positions, notes, scales, and chords, although he covers some of that along the way. It is primarily about the universally accepted technique that he pioneered of moving your hands freely over the fretboard more like a pianist than a guitarist. It is full of tactical insights about how you should approach the fret board and instrument to start learning.

Have fun!
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I like your music - I listened to "You and Me" and a few others on your site.

I'm either blushing or cringing, not sure. As a "new" singer, I'm still learning a lot and know a lot of much better singers who unfortunately do not have my voice or live in my basement (that sounds creepy, sorry). Basement studio sounds better. But you work with what you got and try to make it better.

I think there's 29 tunes or so on Soundcloud, a pretty wide range of stuff. In my own humble opinion, my favorite new age Stevemusic song is "Stark Reflections; Then the Rain." My best rock instrumental is probably D7. It's definitely some of my better mixing and guitar playing, but probably needs vocals. My best full rock song is "We Both No! That." Those opinions are supported by my mainly-Eastern-Europe iTunes sales records as well.

Anyway, DonandPat, what an awesome common how-I-found-Stick story! Nice to meet you and mine hopefully comes tomorrow! New strings sometime early next week!

As for Greg Howard's CD, the guy who sold it to me was taking lessons from Greg and said he had several of his books and CDs, which he's sending as well. So, maybe tomorrow it's already one of them. But thanks so much for the recommendation and the "I just finally touched one of these things" story!

Also, hi Rob, and Jeff and Mitch! Nice to meet you all, too!

Aforementioned Stevemusic linkies:
https://soundcloud.com/stephen-sink-1/s ... ephen-sink
https://soundcloud.com/stephen-sink-1/d-major-7
https://soundcloud.com/stephen-sink-1/w ... -cd-master

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No Chapman Stick guitar from Tokyo today, but I'm not terribly surprised. E-Bay still says "expected to arrive" by today but USPS still says "in transit" and the last status is leaving Japan. I don't even have an expected ETA from the USPS site. I really should have known better than to trust the E-Bay guesstimation. But new strings are also coming from the Stick online store, so maybe they'll get here together.

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I like your music - I listened to "You and Me" and a few others on your site.

I'm either blushing or cringing, not sure.

No cringing needed. Blush if you like, lol.

I'll talk with you more soon about singing, intonation inaccuracy, and autotune. I don't know why some of us who can hear pitch accurately for tuning, etc, and who feel in our heads that we are hitting the notes accurately still have to cringe when we hear playback. I'm close enough that most people say, "you sound fine, what are you worried about?" But I know that the musicians listening get it. A touch of autotune between the mike and PA, with no effects to clue people in about it, makes my world a better place. ;)

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Glenn. Please get the Ann Arbor event going. By then my stick will be I and since my family lives in Windsor it's not to far to go. Heading up that way in mid October.

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A touch of autotune between the mike and PA, with no effects to clue people in about it, makes my world a better place. ;)

Truer words were never said.

I keep telling my much more-talented singer friends that there's no prizes for purity. I use a chromatic tuner for all my stringed instruments, and Autotune or its equivalent for my voice, and I tune and de-tune my snares and kick drums, etc. until I getteth a sound pleasing unto me, yea verily.

My otherwise extremely talented composition professor in college absolutely hated the sound of distortion, and electric guitars with distortion were automatically "not music" in his ears. Pity such close-mindedness.

If I were in a stay-on-pitch competition, then I would lose. But I'm in a make-the-most-awesome-music-you-can competition, and I'll use anything I can get my hands on. Get over it, purists, or feel smugly superior and limp along with only what you got naturally (or by training).

I'm up in here using technology. The Amish acapella vocal choir is that way....I can drive faster than I can run, and I can sing better with some "help."

Ouch, rant off. Touched a nerve there. :ugeek:

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A touch of autotune between the mike and PA, with no effects to clue people in about it, makes my world a better place. ;)

Ouch, rant off. Touched a nerve there. :ugeek:


Yeah, agreed. I had always wanted autotune for live singing but told it was just for recording and would not work well live. Maybe that was true then, but I now have an AutoTunePre pre-amp on all four mikes on our home stage. AutoTunePre is licensed by Antares, but it is dumbed way, way down to a simple pre-amp box with just a few settings. The pitch correct only mode is very innocuous. No snapping, and singers do not even notice it. I know this because I, um, haven't told anyone and no one has noticed. Hey, the boxes are in plain view with blinky lights, and if they are singing on key then the boxes do absolutely nothing to their voice.

Anyway, back to the subject of sticks, I hope yours gets here soon.

Don

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