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Something I have had to realize is that when playing live it should be in mono. I know that it can be in stereo but unless all the audience is in the middle of the room they may be losing a lot of the notes/information. I LOVE pingpong delays because they give so much room and space to a single note but in a live situation a person one one side may not even hear some of those delayed notes on the other side. Light panning might be okay but I've gone mono for live and record in stereo.

Stereo in live situation can be done but it can add headache and really need a good sound guy for it.

About 20 years ago I was at a George Clinton concert and the guitarist had a pan pedal and was panning his solo left and right but from where I was standing towards the left, it sounded like he was just using a volume pedal and it was pretty annoying...

If you go mono you can use a smaller mixer.

Just my thoughts...

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It depends on the scenario. Stereo often does not work so well in a band context, because there's so much happening. But playing solo in a small club with a good sound system, where most of the audience in front of you (a place like the bar Miller's, where I recorded Water on the Moon), stereo can be really fun for you and your audience.

Generally these days I play dual mono, with my bass side coming out of a Bag End and my melody coming out of the Fender guitar amp.

I did have a chance at the recent Interlochen event to play for a bit through two Deluxe Reverbs at once, with stereo effects, It was KILLER, especially the rotary effect and all of those swelling pads I like to use.

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How about live stereo up and down? One speaker cab high overhead and the other on the stage floor. Unless there are balconies, the audience would hear the same from everywhere in the room.

Granted, our ears are on the left and right, but we easily perceive sounds from above and below. (BTW, how do we do that?)

You want sound separation without upsetting your bass/melody balance at each side of the room? Why not try "vertical stereo"?

I haven't had that experience yet (just in my head). Instead, I pan bass and melody strictly to the center and my swirley "pad" sweetener effects to extreme left and right.


MAybe I can help with this one: Directionality perception is something the brain figures out filtering the difference in time between the first sound to arrive at which hear and the early reflections of that same sound. The amount of delay in those early reflections tells us all about the room itself (size, surfaces, etc). The degree of sensitivity of our hears is so amazing, that it can also detect up and down (actually the architecture of the skull has a major role in this). It's the brain's job to figure out all that information and provide the whereabouts on the sound's origin. It's quite remarkable that it all happens in less than a second :)
I'm sure stereo up and down works under the right circumstances: it would depend a lot on the SPL: the Louder the source, the less it will be perceived: too many reflections. Hope it helps :)


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MAybe I can help with this one: Directionality perception is something the brain figures out filtering the difference in time between the first sound to arrive at which hear and the early reflections of that same sound. The amount of delay in those early reflections tells us all about the room itself (size, surfaces, etc). The degree of sensitivity of our hears is so amazing, that it can also detect up and down (actually the architecture of the skull has a major role in this). It's the brain's job to figure out all that information and provide the whereabouts on the sound's origin. It's quite remarkable that it all happens in less than a second :)


It also has to do with the shape of our ears, which reflect sound differently when it comes from different directions and with the damping of reflections by our shoulders.

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Here's some interesting information about 3D sound (and IEM)

http://www.mymixaudio.com/blogs-about-m ... -3-d-sound


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It depends on the scenario. Stereo often does not work so well in a band context, because there's so much happening. But playing solo in a small club with a good sound system, where most of the audience in front of you (a place like the bar Miller's, where I recorded Water on the Moon), stereo can be really fun for you and your audience.




I'm playing arenas... not too intimate...
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Here's some interesting information about 3D sound (and IEM)

http://www.mymixaudio.com/blogs-about-m ... -3-d-sound

Nice :) Thanks Olivier :)


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These are great comments! I enjoyed reading that article Olivier, very interesting although I have never performed with IEMs. The great stereo debate lives on...

I went with a less expensive solution that still allowed me to meet most all of my requirements. I went with a Mackie 8 channel mixer. At 1/10 the cost of the Touchmix, it was hard not to. I am truly impressed with the quality and rich feature set of the Touchmix, but it was a bit too big for the pedalboard and it would delay (heh) picking up the Pigtronix Echolution Pro 2 Ultra Pro which I have been jonesing for over 3 months now..

I am able to run both channels of my melody side inputs in stereo as well as isolating an input for the bass - with one channel left over. I am also able to use the RCA inputs for a laptop if needed (good for city gigs where I provide music in addition to playing music). The venues that I play are small enough that a true stereo image can be appreciated, even if only by me. I can also run a separate mix to a 1x12 bass cab using the Control Room out if I am playing with others.

In the next 3 weeks, I will do a run down of the rig. It's pretty close to done.

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Hi Gene. Mackie mixers are EXCELLENT. Also a very good choice. And let's not forget that ultimately, it's the music that counts :D


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Thanks Olivier - good to hear that coming from you. I was a little worried about using a smaller mixer, but so far, it is quiet, well made and has all the features that I require for my setup.

Stereo!

Rig rundown video coming soon as I get my new delay pedal. I can't wait...

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Well, I've had a Mackie and a Yamaha mixer before I took the plunge for the QSC. Both are very well built, reliable and sound good.


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