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Scronk
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DAW Interface
Great thread! Another option to consider, if you currently have ADAT on your FocusRite, is to add one of these boxes. It's built with high-quality op-amps apparently: https://thomann.de/gb/behringer_ada_8200_ultragain.htmThis would instantly give you +8 channels, right? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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paigan0
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Re: DAW Interface
TappistRT wrote: Ok. I guess I misunderstood your inputs needs from your post!
I would be a little concerned with USB and recording that many signals at once. I would think that a Thunderbolt or PCI-e interface might be more well-suited. Hopefully someone else can chime in and confirm or deny any experiences they've had with recording a large number of signals on a USB interface. These devices claim to have "almost zero latency" even when recording up to 8 streams or more. They can technically do USB 3.0 AND 2.0, but I would think that I'd use a 3.0 USB port and then the data-through rate is really, really large. A 3.0 interface is a pretty fat pipe for data. Even a 2.0 USB should be fast enough for at least 4 if not 8 inputs. That is all theoretical, and not practical, knowledge however. I'd bow to other's experiences doing 8-tracks-at-a-time recording. Jayesskerr wrote: I have an Apogee Quartet, I use from time to time as a portable solution with my laptop for recording drums; 4 at a time, it works great and it's USB. I don't know that I really need more than 4 inputs at a time, but I'm trying to somewhat future-proof my next interface, seeing as how the last one lasted me over a decade! I'm probably going to settle on 8 mic inputs. But thanks for that excellent recommendation about the Apogee Quartet, Scott--it's one of the more highly-rated in that price category. tiega wrote: I have for my PC laptop a Steinberg ur44. One important thing for me is the stability and I have to say I am very pleased by the drivers. It is true that this sound card is a little bit costly for a 4x6, but I would redo my choice if I had to. The Steinbergs are usually rock solid. And a little pricey. I'm not sure if that price-to-worthiness ratio is good or not, but I've had several Steinberg products and have always had good results. I looked at a couple of Steinberg interfaces, but the price turned me off. Thanks for that input, tiega! Scronk wrote: Great thread! Another option to consider, if you currently have ADAT on your FocusRite, is to add one of these boxes. It's built with high-quality op-amps apparently: https://thomann.de/gb/behringer_ada_8200_ultragain.htmThis would instantly give you +8 channels, right? Scronk, that looks really nice, actually, and seems like it would be a perfect fit. At around 150 pounds, I'm not sure what that would be in US [looks like around $188.28 according to the Googly]. Okay, that's a really good price, even with delivery. I'm going to look at that one a bit more. Excellent suggestion! Thanks, guys, for the inputs about DAW interfaces! There's no one right answer here, and I'm not in any big hurry. I'm going to keep looking and researching. I appreciate your experiences!
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randy
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Re: DAW Interface
paigan0 wrote: Jayesskerr wrote: I have an Apogee Quartet, I use from time to time as a portable solution with my laptop for recording drums; 4 at a time, it works great and it's USB. I don't know that I really need more than 4 inputs at a time, but I'm trying to somewhat future-proof my next interface, seeing as how the last one lasted me over a decade! I'm probably going to settle on 8 mic inputs. But thanks for that excellent recommendation about the Apogee Quartet, Scott--it's one of the more highly-rated in that price category. ! I use the Duet (basically 1/2 a Quartet, less some excellent form factor aspects of the Quartet) - and it's great. Top notch signal quality, super easy to use interface, setup (with a Mac) - takes virtually no muss n fuss...
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Jayesskerr
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Re: DAW Interface
randy wrote: paigan0 wrote: Jayesskerr wrote: I have an Apogee Quartet, I use from time to time as a portable solution with my laptop for recording drums; 4 at a time, it works great and it's USB. I don't know that I really need more than 4 inputs at a time, but I'm trying to somewhat future-proof my next interface, seeing as how the last one lasted me over a decade! I'm probably going to settle on 8 mic inputs. But thanks for that excellent recommendation about the Apogee Quartet, Scott--it's one of the more highly-rated in that price category. ! I use the Duet (basically 1/2 a Quartet, less some excellent form factor aspects of the Quartet) - and it's great. Top notch signal quality, super easy to use interface, setup (with a Mac) - takes virtually no muss n fuss... I have a Duet, and a One, and a newer Ensemble among other things. The Apogee stuff sounds brilliant to my ears, a noticeable difference when I have compared it to some other stuff... Pricey, though and Mac only.
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WerkSpace
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Re: DAW Interface
When I started looking for a low latency external audio interface, I learned that the driver was just as important as the physical hardware. I kept coming across the words ASIO everywhere that I looked. So, I researched what ASIO meant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Stream_Input/OutputUpon discovering that Steinberg created the ASIO protocol, I wondered if they made the hardware to go with it. This is when I chose the Steinberg UR44 as my audio interface choice. I'm very happy with my purchase. https://www.steinberg.net/en/products/audio_interfaces/ur_series/start.html
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paigan0
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Re: DAW Interface
Ah, the ASIO drivers! I've discovered that MACs seem to have a version of this driver natively, but when I tried to use Pro Tools on my Windows PCs without the ASIO driver from Focusrite (Sapphire) installed, Pro Tools won't work. It needs an ASIO driver that doesn't come with Windows. So on my daughter's laptop PC, that doesn't use any external interface (because she's just running a MIDI keyboard and nothing else yet), I had to install a driver. I always use ASIO4ALL at asio4all.com whenever I need to get Pro Tools to work on a machine that doesn't have a dedicated DAW interface. The ASIO4ALL drivers can record in 192 KHz, so I've not noticed any decrement to using those "free" drivers when I've needed to. I wanted to just run a Kontakt player and Pro Tools on her laptop, but without the interface drivers, Pro Tools won't work in Windows. ASIO4ALL fixes that little problem, whenever I have it. MAC IOS seems to have the ASIO driver natively and will work fine with Pro Tools without a separate interface driver. And thanks, Werkspace, it is never a bad idea to go with the company that invented the standard (unless we're talking Adobe, but I'm just making a joke!) Steinberg stuff--software and hardware--is high quality and tough to "break."
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WerkSpace
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Re: DAW Interface
Steinberg is owned by Yamaha. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SteinbergI like Yamaha products. My Sax and 600cc thumper are Yamaha. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkJGOAmtWucSteinberg has introduced several industry-standard software protocols. These include: ASIO (a low-latency communication protocol between software and sound cards) VST (a protocol allowing third-party audio plugins and virtual instruments) LTB (providing accurate timing for its now-discontinued MIDI interfaces) VSL (an audio/MIDI network protocol which allows the connection and synchronisation of multiple computers running Steinberg software)
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