Re: Stand-up Stick Stand (SUSS), easy DIY project
Yet another variation Stand-up/Sit-down Stick Stand (my main use is as sit-down).
The core of the project is a Pearl BC-830 Cymbal Boom stand. The Stick holder block is inspired by earlier projects here, and of course the TAGG, but I have included a couple of variations that I've not noticed anywhere else (I'm happy to be educated if there are examples I've missed).
N.B. Think of this as a prototype. As you'll see from the pictures, the finish is not elegant. It's been made from offcuts that were ready to hand, were mainly used in the sizes they already were, and have just been sanded smooth enough to avoid splinters.
It started as a sandwich of 3 pieces of wood plus 4 bolts with wing nuts. On one side is an off cut of 100x10 (4"x ~1/2") skirting board. The main body is an offcut of 150x50 (6"x2") construction timber. Between those is a piece of 4mm hardboard from which the shape of the belthook 'tongue' had been cut out.
The belthook sits over the skiriting, with the cutout in the hardboard acting to discourage lateral movement till the bolts are tightened. All standard so far.
To mount the block on the stand I used the threaded 'pin' that's designed to hold the cymbal. That is 10mm dia at the base, then narrows to 8mm, the top part of which is threaded. To make use of that I drilled an 11cm deep 8mm dia hole in the bottom of the block, then widened the first 55mm to 10mm dia. That allowed the block to be pushed on to the 'pin'. It was a snug enough fit that it held in place securely, without wobble or tendency to rotate (and required some force to dismantle).
That arrangement gave a workable solution.
My first modification was to add some washers between the hardboard and the skirting, so the tongue just (but only just) fitted in the slot. With that arrangement the Stick could be fitted & removed without any adjustment of bolts (as per the TAGG?).
Even with a snug slot (or bolted tight) there was a noticable flexing of the non-tongue side of the belt hook (my 1985 #1642 have the non-adjustable plastic hook, I don't know if the newer adjustable one is stiffer?). The flex could probably be put up with, but I decided to make things more secure by adding a piece of plain 50x8 (2"x 3/8"?) architrave across the top 2 bolts. That gave a very secure fit with only a little flex from the belthook mount, which could be solved using one of the cymbal retaining rubbers, as per the doorstop in the bottom image in
this post).
However, the extra bar required at least one of the bolts to be removed almost entirely to fit or remove the Stick. To get around that, on one side of the bar I cut a slot from the edge to the hole, angling the slot to allow for rotation. With that modification the outer bar can be rotated to raise it out of the way for fitting/removal with only a few turns of the wing nuts. To help reduce the nut turns on the 'pivot' side I added some extra washers between skirting & bar.
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Just one more modification after that (so far). As mentioned above, the block was just a push fit on to the stand. Over time that would wear loose, so I had an idea...
I drilled a 55mm (~2") hole right through the block, positioned to expose most of the thread at the top of the cymbal mount. I placed a large M8 washer on the cymbal mount pin (to give a larger base than just the widening from 8mm to 10mm), fitted the holder on the mount, added a couple of small washers (to help accomodate the curve of the hole wall), then popped on the nut normally used to hold the cymbal in secure and tightened it up. Result - a holder that is secure on the cymbal stand, but easy to adjust or remove.
Through the hole you can see the cut out in the hardboard (Stick not fitted when picture taken).
N.B. The partially visible the pencil circle doesn't mean I slipped with the hole saw!
After I drew that I changed my mind about the position in order to expose less threads.
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If I ever get around to making a 'tidier' one I'd offset the mounting hole a bit towards the open side (maybe a third in, rather than halfway across) to improve access for turning the mounting nut. It's okay as it is, but no harm in making it easier!