Oh Man! I knew you could have an X/Y setup on the AMP block but I thought you had to remain with the same modeling on both the X and Y. This gives you tremendous flexibility in tone on just one preset.



Thanks. I'll check this out, hopefully tonight. It's too bad that you can't just go balls out on both inputs and create the perfect patch for both the melody and bass. I know that sounds greedy but this thing was very expensive. Wish they could have put in some beefier CPU for power users like us.



I've been using AXE Editor as well as the front panel. Axe Edit doesn't seem to update when I am making changes on the front panel of the unit unless I click "refresh from hardware".

In any event, this has literally taken up every instant of free time. I love getting new gear and reading the manual cover to cover and then digging in deep to utilize all of the features. I have so much more to explore. Just trying to get the basics down at this point.

Thanks for all of your assistance.

Yeah it's a fantastic piece of Gear for stick. Agree that a higher CPU limit would be great to not have to compromise on patches, especially when programming a versatile patch for live use but the xy goes a long way towards increasing what's available at your feet. I'll check out your patch cause I haven't yet figured out how to share reverb/delay and vary levels on the bass/melody side. Cool to have some more stickists go the axe way. Just got my ii so the ultra is going to get sold soon ... Or I could keep it and run one axe per output... Hmm

One thing you'll find on the II compared to the Ultra is that the two CPUs are specialized in their tasks. One if for amp and cab modeling, while the other is for effects and the O/S. Helps tremendously.

Really happy there are some other AxeFX users here also. Would love to share patches from time to time. I have a good ambient patch I'll share soon.

Karma

I don't have an AxeFx (yet) but would be interested in hearing you play something through that patch

Per,

Here's a sample of me noodling on nothing in particular with my ambient patch.

I have this eq'd for headphones so don't hold my feet to the fire if it's a little mid heavy, etc.

This is my Stick (12 string grand with stickup) directly into the AxeFxII. No post processing other than to chop the ends of the file off in SoundForge and convert to MP3. BTW, the little bit of noise you hear at the final fade is the EMF I get off of my PC which is like a foot from my Stick as I recorded this. The AxeFX is dead quiet on this patch.

Here are links;
Sample recording
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5kz32tyopli0gwl/Ambient%20Stick%20Sample.mp3

Patch File
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ymnyh8l25cu0s50/Super%20Ambient%20Stick%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20.syx

Screenshot of how the patch is laid out in the editor software (the top row is the melody side and bottom row is bass side - You can see two shared reverbs on row 2 and 3)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/baab0cvq3lj7rto/AXEFXII%20PATCH.jpg

Peace,
Karma

Oh man, that reverb sound is just awesome! How great it works with the dynamics in you playing!

One thing I'm thinking about is what the options are for letting a parameter follow the input amplitude? (the level of the sound you're pickup are delivering). And also if the input level amplitude of one input can be assigned to shuffle a parameter of some module in the other input's processing chain? I'm asking because this (melody-bass side crossfade envelope follow control) is the downside for using a laptop based amp system, as I am now using. You see, if using a laptop with a multi core CPU and the software Mainstage (my fav) multi core support is only working if you stay away from crossfading automatic modulation routing. In fact, you need to keep as much stuff inside the same channel strip to optimise a Mainstage patch for multi core, but of course you may have many parallel channel strips. But I'm kind of excited with the idea of making patches where maybe a sound played on the bass side will duck down the volume of a reverb on the melody side etc etc. As for today I can't make this happen in my laptop with Mainstage (or any other software) but have to use manual expression pedals for both fretboard sides and sort of play such "sound ducking" as part of the music. That's cool too, but it would be nice to have an in-the-box patch that does this my automatique.

Good question. And I think you can do what you suggest as long as you are using one input to drive changes in various parameters in any of the blocks. Let me explain.

There are multiple modifiers that can be used to drive changes in almost any parameter in the box. There are two ADSR's, two LFO's, Two step sequencers, and an Envelope. The ADSR's and the envelope respond to input from input1 (and not input 2). So, as long as you ran whichever side of the stick you wanted to use to trigger changes in parameters into the #1 input, you should be able to do this (if I understand your question correctly). Example, you could have the bass side trigger the envelope and both ADSR's via the #1 input, and have each of those drive changes in multiple parameters in any number of blocks. So as simple example, you could have the reverb time and level change as well as the volume in a block on the melody side when you play something on the bass side and have each react differently to the input... each time you assign a controller to a parameter, you can individually assign how it effects that parameter uniquely via some local controls.

Also, for fun here is another sample that it 100% ambient.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/78z4h1gd7j0rdc8/More%20Ambient%20Stick.mp3

BTW, the developer is about to release another firmware upgrade with even more refined reverb among other goodies. Firmware updates are always free even when he adds new amps or effects.

Hope this helps.

Dude, you just totally crashed my bank account! I don't have the money but now I want a box like this! Thanks a lot for the detailed answers and write-up. Great to have these effects instantly available for gigs where you don't really want/need to bring a laptop. But then, for the typical looping concerts I sometimes do there is the option to simply hook up a laptop hosting live looping software by a digital send/return. Neat.

One quick clarification. I edited my post above to correct something (in case someone reads this down the road). The trigger for the controllers is driven off of input #1 and not input #2, vs. being driven off of left and right inputs as I originally wrote. Same application... just a technicality to get it right.

Per,

Did a quick example of what I "think" you're talking about. In this, the melody side has reverb on it, and when I start to play the bass side, the AxeFX turns down the mix of the reverb on the melody side. I have this set to basically turns the mix to zero, but you can program it to hit any point between. It can also be variable tracking your bass side dynamics. And as I mentioned before, the triggers can be pointed at nearly any parameter in the box. One fun one is to track pitch on the melody side and have it turn up a delay and reverb as you play higher in pitch.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ajqvj2kzm6zwxgd/Reverb%20Ducking%20Example.mp3

Karma