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 SOLD- 1990s 10-string Padauk Chapman stick for sale-s/n#112 
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Post SOLD- 1990s 10-string Padauk Chapman stick for sale-s/n#112
Hi,

I have a 10-string Chapman stick that I would like to sell. From the replies to this post, it seems it was made soon after Emmett started renumbering in the early 1990s: and is made of Padauk, serial number 112. It comes with the case. The padding in the case is coming out a bit, but the instrument is in perfect condition. I can supply a stereo to mono cable with it as well. I saw what looked like an identical stick (I believe number 206) sell for $2400 recently. I am looking for $2000 + shipping for this one. It is currently receiving a decent amount of interest on ebay for $2400, but I would prefer to sell it here since I know for sure it will be played and appreciated. I am open to offers but would like to get as close to that number as possible. Let me know if you have any questions.

UPDATE: This stick has sold. Thanks everyone for their input on this model.

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Post Re: Early 1990s 10-string Chapman stick for sale (s/n #112)
My friend, that's a very old vintage Ironwood Stick, mid 1970s....

If anyone has anything to add, or feels I'm wrong with that statement, please correct me.

I have two old Ironwoods myself, so I'm kind of up on these instruments.

It's interesting because my #285 has the original wood nut, while this one here has the screw slotted individual nut for each string.

I'd be curious if your instrument was updated/modded by Stick Enterprises at some point in time, which was not an uncommon thing to do.

see pictures below of my two ironwoods, as there's somethings that are not adding up with yours if it's all original


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Post Re: Early 1990s 10-string Chapman stick for sale (s/n #112)
Yes, it looks like the instrument has been upgraded at some point by SE, because the serial number is not consistent with the features (truss-rod, screw slots at the nut). I may be wrong, but I'm a bit lazy to check out the timeline on the SE website :?
BTW, all three instruments pictured there are gorgeous.

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Post Re: Early 1990s 10-string Chapman stick for sale (s/n #112)
Thank you both for your replies! I bought it about a decade ago and the only info that the seller gave was the wood type. As you both rightly said, I thought because of the newer features that it was from the time period when Chapman restarted the serial numbering, but I’m glad people who know a lot more than me about it have the answers! Given the model and the mods, is $2400 a fair price? I really have no idea how to get a good evaluation of the instrument. I am trying to raise money for a 1980s Czech-made upright bass, so getting as close to that number as possible would be amazing, but I want to make sure it’s fair.

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Post Re: 1970s 10-string Chapman stick for sale (s/n #112)
I'm pretty sure this is #112 from around 1990, when Emmett started the numbering system all over again (at #001) after introducing truss rods, but before adjustable bridges. The photos are consistent with models of the '89-90 era

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Post Re: 1970s 10-string Chapman stick for sale (s/n #112)
I'm thinking about 2000 US$, but I may be wrong... Maybe it's a valuable device for a collector?

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Post Re: Early 1990s 10-string Chapman stick for sale (s/n #112)
grozoeil wrote:
Yes, it looks like the instrument has been upgraded at some point by SE, because the serial number is not consistent with the features (truss-rod, screw slots at the nut). I may be wrong, but I'm a bit lazy to check out the timeline on the SE website :?
BTW, all three instruments pictured there are gorgeous.
Bruno, you are right.

The original instrument would not have had the adjustable truss or nut screws. So it has been modified from a vintage state, and would be a better playing instrument because of that. It also has a new pickup and belt hook.

Even with the new truss, the tunings you can use on this instrument are limited due to intonation factors from the fixed bridge screw positions. Light gauge only, Classic or MR. Baritone Melody is possible with modified bridge screws.

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Post Re: 1970s 10-string Chapman stick for sale (s/n #112)
I have an Oak Stick #093 bought used from SE in 1997. I was told the instrument was made in 1991. The Stick pictured in the first post looks the same as mine except for the type of wood.

If the pictured instrument had an adjustable truss rod added and was an original ironwood with non-adjustable truss, you would be able to see those fixed rods on either side of the center or that they were removed and filled in. I don't see evidence of that.

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Post Re: 1970s 10-string Chapman stick for sale (s/n #112)
Crap !!

I completely stand corrected: http://stick.com/about/history/timeline/

8-88 Rubber-mounted pickup module, isolated from direct vibrational contact with the instrument.
10-89 Hardwood instruments with single adjustable truss rod and stainless steel Fret Rods.
12-90 First three Grand Sticks®.
7-91 First commercial production of Grand Sticks.
7-91 Adjustable bridge/tailpiece unit for 3-dimensional adjustment of individual strings, including a protruding "butt" for standing the instrument on end.
5-92 Headstock with modified round tip.

So, baggetthouse is correct.

Plus, if it was an original series #112, the Stick itself would have had a much narrower, tighter string spacing.

Sorry about all the confusion, as I sincerely thought it was an older Ironwood.

It's as it was originally described in the original post, before it was re-edited due to my stupidy.

Again, sorry guys..............

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Post Re: 1970s 10-string Chapman stick for sale (s/n #112)
rwkeating wrote:
I have an Oak Stick #093 bought used from SE in 1997. I was told the instrument was made in 1991. The Stick pictured in the first post looks the same as mine except for the type of wood.

If the pictured instrument had an adjustable truss rod added and was an original ironwood with non-adjustable truss, you would be able to see those fixed rods on either side of the center or that they were removed and filled in. I don't see evidence of that.

Right you are Russell, plus this looks like it has Fret Rods, so please disregard my earlier post.

Emmett restarted the numerical series in 1989 with the first one-piece hardwood instruments with Fret Rods, #001. Concurrent production of polycarbonate instruments continued until 1990 as well, with those serial numbers going just above 3000 I believe.

I was fooled by the squared off headstock. The rounded ones didn't begin until 1992.

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