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k.graz
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Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:48 pm Posts: 87 Location: Upstate, NY (USA)
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All 5ths Tuning
Hi All,
Just busted out the NS/Stick for the first time in a while. It felt pretty good to tap around a bit, but something has been plaguing me since day one: I can't really dig any of the tunings I've tried.
On a lark, I tuned some of the interior strings to be a perfect 5th apart. In this circumstance, I had an A string followed by E followed by B. What a difference!!! This may be the tuning for me.
My question is two-fold: are there any 5ths tunings (such as crafty tuning made famous by Trey Gunn) that you have experience with, and, if so, where can I get some strings for this?
Best, ~Nick "Klaus" G.
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Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:47 pm |
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Luc
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Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:59 am Posts: 2593 Location: Maine
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Re: All 5ths Tuning
That's a bold move. I hope it works for you - you seem really excited by it! Where to get strings? You might have to design a set yourself. As I am not as familiar with guitar and bass gauges as many of you out there are, my question might seem a little ignorant, but would it be simply a matter of lightening the gauges of the strings tuned in 5ths to compensate for the additional tension? I'm just throwing the thought out there.
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greg
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Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:07 pm Posts: 7088 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia, USA
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Re: All 5ths Tuning
You can use the custom tuning page to order any set of stings you want: Fill out the info on this page and you'll be taken to the form. http://www.stick.com/instruments/tunings/custom/After you provide the specific info about your instrument you can request a custom tuning. For the NS Stick, if you start on an open low Bb you can have this tuning, which is the same as the "crafty" tuning. you have a minor 3rd and a 2nd on top, which will give you some intersting chordal possibilities as well. low to high: 8. Bb 7. F 6. C 5. G 4. D 3. A 2. C 1. D The high D is probably the thinnest you would want to go (this is the same pitch as the high D on a Classic tuned Stick) I hope that helps.
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AnDroiD
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Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:42 pm Posts: 2536 Location: Jersey
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Re: All 5ths Tuning
Emmett will set you up with anything you need - the right strings, the right tension. D'Addario is his string manufacturer and they are the ONLY string to use. he set me up for DBR on the Ironwood after i explained what i was doing. no problems.
_________________ Peace, Marty "The present day composer refuses to die" -Edgard Varese
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Per Boysen
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Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:05 am Posts: 2268 Location: Stockholm/Sweden
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Re: All 5ths Tuning
That's an intriguing idea, to go all fifth! I have mirrored fifths on the bass side of my Sticks but never actually tried it on the melody side. But I play a lot of cello, which is "non-mirrored" fifths, and I'm finding that tuning quite creative! Looking forward to hear about your impressions if you go ahead and try it out on the NS!
_________________ Cheers / Per Bamboo SG12, Wenge SG12, Bamboo Grand. PASV4 on all. (+ Stickup modded by Emmett 4 the PASV4 blocks). Fractal Audio AxeFx-III, 2 x RCF NX-10 SMA, Apollo Twin USB http://youtube.com/perboysen
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rclere
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Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:53 am Posts: 1518 Location: Seattle, WAq
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Re: All 5ths Tuning
I study with Trey, and it was not until I tuned to 5th's that things really started to happen in my development…. I played that way for two years… There is a lot you can do with that tuning. However, I have since changed to MR and am quite happy. there are pro's and con's. Greg knows a lot about this, and really helped me a lot. I say GO FOR IT!!
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Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:08 pm |
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Per Boysen
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Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:05 am Posts: 2268 Location: Stockholm/Sweden
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Re: All 5ths Tuning
I too like MR! Went with it from day one when I started out playing the Stick. I appreciate that it provides both 4ths and 5ths in the same instrument.
_________________ Cheers / Per Bamboo SG12, Wenge SG12, Bamboo Grand. PASV4 on all. (+ Stickup modded by Emmett 4 the PASV4 blocks). Fractal Audio AxeFx-III, 2 x RCF NX-10 SMA, Apollo Twin USB http://youtube.com/perboysen
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rob5280
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Joined: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:57 am Posts: 341
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Re: All 5ths Tuning
All 5ths would be really interesting on the melody side. I think it would lean towards a four finger approach based on my experience from the mandolin. I really like the mirrored tuning. I would order a set of mirrored 5ths today for my second Stick. Now, if only I had a second Stick! Rob
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k.graz
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Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:48 pm Posts: 87 Location: Upstate, NY (USA)
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Re: All 5ths Tuning
Thanks for the replies, folks!
I sent in my custom form about a week ago. I'm still waiting to hear from the good people at SE, but I'm sure they're just super busy (it's never taken more than a few days in the past). Anywho, I'm definitely very excited about the sonic options this should open for me.
Once I get a reply from SE (and once I get the strings for that matter), I'll keep everyone posted on the results!
Best, ~Nick "Klaus" G.
_________________ Mysterious Warr Guitar (in "Crafty" tuning)
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Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:56 pm |
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Balt-A-Sar
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Joined: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:13 pm Posts: 623
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Re: All 5ths Tuning
Per Boysen wrote: I too like MR! Went with it from day one when I started out playing the Stick. I appreciate that it provides both 4ths and 5ths in the same instrument.
...agree 150%,...and, to have "4ths and 5ths in the same instrument" is a big advantage.... ...IMHO...
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