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greg
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Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:07 pm Posts: 7088 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia, USA
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 Re: Fret level
rowka wrote: There are definitely two "planes" of finger/fret board on this Stick. Nut to 14th fret 14th to 24th fret.
The truss rod doesn't seem to affect the area from the 14th to the 14 fret. Getting the wood as flat as possible ALMOST gets these two zones in-line. Almost.
The tops of the frets never get in line. I'm assuming you mean "14th to the 24th fret".... Without seeing your instrument it's hard for me to get what you're saying. You really should take a photo of the bridge screws and post it, then I could tell you if the screws look like they are too low or too high. Since people often don't follow the directions about truss adjustment, when you buy a second hand Stick the setup can often be completely wrong, and based more on "guitar" setup concepts. Please post a photo that show the screws from the butt end of the instrument, and that also shows the top of the instrument. Then I should be able to help you solve your issue.
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:43 am |
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rowka
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Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:08 am Posts: 67 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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 Re: Fret level
Yes, 14th to 24th fret. I'll get the pics up after work. Gimme, oh, about 10 hours.. Thanks for your support. If I can't get it sorted, I'll send it to Cali. I will say, though, it seems to play beautifully in the first half of the neck. I was even jamming out on some old Duran Duran "Rio". 
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:16 am |
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rowka
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Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:08 am Posts: 67 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:23 pm |
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BSharp
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Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:45 am Posts: 1183
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 Re: Fret level
To rowka, my setup log says your laminated shedua Stick was made on 10/5/02 and sent to a customer named Murray. Sometimes, the khaki tan shedua hardwood (no longer used) was stubborn, even with the laminate structure where the law of averages supposedly come into play. So the neck of your Stick could conceivably have developed a slipped disk somewhere around the 14th vertebra - back to the chiropractor?
I'd re-dress the Rail tips lower and on a flat plane with a little extra "relief" under the low bass strings at the low to mid frets. Then I'd "crown" the shaved tips round again for a uniform playing surface of collective Rails. By now the hardwood (yours has turned a warmer color) must have "settled" and my fret dressing and setup should have a long life.
You may live or die for DIY, but I'll bet you wouldn't cut your own diamonds (or perform auto-surgery?). These words are a bit "loaded" I know, but I'm just kidding to exaggerate the point. I appreciate your DIY spirit of course (have been there a few times myself) but I also see the value of specialization.
Just a thought, Emmett.
PS to others on this thread: - The Rails never come loose and we use the toughest epoxy. - I create no bass relief at the higher pitched Rails.
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:22 pm |
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rowka
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Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:08 am Posts: 67 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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 Re: Fret level
Emmett, Thank you for chiming in. If I could have proven to myself that it was just a high fret (as I originally hypothesized) I would have attempted a repair myself. I’m now convinced that is not the case and it will require skill far greater than I can fake.
I’m going to call you shortly (probably tonight) and make arrangements to send it to you. Then, when you’ve given it an inspection, we can discuss what needs to be done.
Thank you, Dan (Rowka)
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:58 pm |
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greg
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Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:07 pm Posts: 7088 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia, USA
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 Re: Fret level
Thanks for taking the pics. The bridge doesn't look unusually high. I wanted to see this in case you had the bridge cranked way up and the truss too tight, which could create the kind of scenario you are talking about as far as the behavior of the notes as you play them (though it wouldn't explain what you showed in your diagram The best idea would be to send it back to Emmett. He'll send it back to you good as new.
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:51 pm |
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rowka
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Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:08 am Posts: 67 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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 Re: Fret level
Already called to send it back. I'll ship it out tomorrow.
Thanks for all your help.
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Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:53 pm |
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rowka
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Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:08 am Posts: 67 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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On it's way to Woodland Hills. Should be there Wednesday. Here's to hoping it's not a big deal.
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Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:54 am |
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rowka
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Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:08 am Posts: 67 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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According to FedEx, it was delivered about 2 hours ago.
Like a kid waiting for Christmas all over again.
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Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:11 am |
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rowka
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Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:08 am Posts: 67 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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It's on its way back. It should be waiting for me when I get home from work on Wednesday. I'm all set with Emmett's book, Greg's book and DVD, and Steve's book.
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